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A lot of ppl aren't going to like this: but if black WOMEN would get their shit together then black men would too. What happened to the black family when your baby daddy was also your husband? Why have a baby with a brotha who won't share his last name with you like God intended?

When I met my husband I quite frankly told him I am not going to be his baby's momma, I'm not living with him premarital, and if you want me to marry you I want an engagement ring and not two weeks before the wedding. After 2 years of dating and 6 years of marriage we are picking out anniversary rings.

Any black woman who is angry with a black man over the baby Mama thing you have to ask y/s why b/c you contributed to the situation. It is not enough to be a father on birthdays and Christmas. A real man can be a husband and a father. Period.

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Well since Angie chose to have a baby with him, she's gonna have to deal with him until the child is at least 18. Women in general need to raise their standards and stop settling for and having babies with these half steppin men who bring nothing to the table but their looks.

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Ditto Natalie. Angie seems to be suffering from Hillaritis? A man that is committed to his relationship gives off signals that no woman can ignore. When those signal aren't there, that's because the relationship isn't either. Let me be real as rain right now. If the man loves himself more than he loves you, it's time to get what you can and move on. He has options and he could be wrestling with them behind your back. They could be doing "Greco-Roman Style with Oil" if you know what I mean? When a man looks too good, and he does, what he might love could be like looking in a mirror. Damn that's deep on so many levels and I didn't say anything. Can you feel me?

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OK Natalie, I kind of agree with your take on the woman, not just the man, sharing in the responsibility. But how can you say that if black women get they shit together the black man will too as if that fact alone should hold weight on how a black man conducts himself. I personally know black women who HAVE their shit together and are married and yet the man struggles with getting his life priorities in order, and vise versa. You do not know Angie Stone or D'Angelo personally, nor the complete reason why she made that comment...and if you did you probably wouldn't have made such a one sided, berateful comment. I think you need to think in terms of individualism instead of trying to blame and stereotypically group all black women as the fall of SOME black men. I am a Single Black Woman with two children with a wonderful, loving, and responsible Single Black Man. We have been together for almost 8 years and I could care less about what "society" thinks about us not having legal documentation stating that fact. Get real, what were ancient societies doing before a marriage certificate? Just because you're married doesn't mean that you and your spouse are happy or raising your children in a loving and productive environment... and it damn sure doesn't give you the right to belittle single parents just because they don't share your narrow minded views.

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NATALIE, THE VOICE OF REASON AND SANITY.

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WHY RAISE LITTLE BASTARDS,BLACK MEN SHOULD MAN UP AND GIVE THEIR CHILDREN THEIR NAME, ALSO THE WOMEN THEY INPREGNATE. THIS IS NOT ANCIENT SOCIETY. THIS IS THE 21 CENTURY. YESTERDAY IS HISTORY, TOMORROW IS A MYSTERY, HOWEVER TODAY IS TODAY! TODAY WITHOUT A MARRIAGE THE FEMALES ARE JUST SLUTS RAISING LITTLE BASTARDS AND THE MEN STILL THINK IT IS THE 18TH CENTURY AND WHITEY IS GONNA GIVE THEM A DOLLAR FOR EVERY SUCKER THEY PUMP OUT A LA SLAVERY. I HATE DUMB AS BLACK PEOPLE.

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Regardless as to how children get here, once they are here it is the responsibility of both parents to act like adults. Any man that does not "man-up" and treat his children and their mother with respect is not a man. The best revenge is SUCCESS, Make money and more Money!Let me show you how http://www.lchrealestate.com

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are you guys listening...........Angie didnot say anything about child support or him notbeing a good father...she was actuallytalkingabot is drinking and what he's doing to him self. and stop being so critical of other people. you people don't live with Angie or D'angelo

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It doesn't matter if a woman has her shit together or not a MAN is and forever will be a MAN. They do what they want, when they want, and how they want.
It's the woman they deal with that has to put her foot down and say that's it I can't take this anymore.
A woman doesn't have control over what a man does.

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Angie's issues with him may not have to do with their child. They could still be very good friends and maybe fell out about something other than their son. The problem in the black community is that children aren't being raised. There are still parents out there who aren't married but are working very hard to co-parent and they raise good kids who turn out to be very upstanding citizens in the community. Black women shouldn't have to get out s%^t together in order for Black men to do the same. We ALL should want to get ourselves together because we want to be proud of ourselves and in turn hopefully that will inspire the people around us to get their butts in gear and make some positive life changes. I do believe marriage is very important but without it that doesn't mean children should have to suffer. Two people can be married and still do a shi!!y job as parents. Quit pointing the finger at who should or shouldn't do whatever and encourage people to focus on our kids....they are suffering whether mommy and daddy are married or not!!!!!!

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