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Ummh! That's ironic coming from you. Do you know why you are disrepected so much? Because you are not smart enough to figure out that when you trash where you came from, people believe you and take YOU as trash. You came from your mother, ie. Black Woman, if you don't have the good sense to revere, why should anyone respect you since you came from her.

Have you ever seen an Italian Guy talk trash about Italian Women? I don't think so dummy. They fight and protect theor woman. Hell they'll "take you fishing" if you even dreamt of disrespecting their woman. Why can't a Black Man do that? Better yet why can't a Black Man give a BW a break, rather than add on grief for her, since he sure as hell isn't gonna protect her?

Do you know how ebarassing it is for a BW today?

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Where do you get your data? Most successful black men want white women? Who told you that? That's like saying most successful black women want white men.....totally ooff base. That's some sort of twisted myth.

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I have to disagree Ann. Most people, successful or not, date within their own people group. What you, Jill, and others are not factoring in to the IR equation is access. In this world, as you move up the ladder of so-called success your world is going to lighten up in America. Every achievement (eduacation, money, position, fame)gives a person a little more access. That means access to every and anything. For men this means more choices in neighborhoods, cars, houses, clothes, and more choices in accessible women. This is the case in any society in the world. In America, it starts with our education, which affects future careers, and impacts our self-esteem and relationships. If you're black and gain a good education, position, and a high salary in any area, your everyday social contacts will probably contain more white faces than black ones, unless you makes an effort to separate himself from that world. Most black athletes and entertainers generally use white public relations people, agents, and managers to screen events, because there are few black faces in these areas. And these white agencies try to screen black media and other black people, not on that special guest list, out. As a black photojournalist, I know this first hand. Hence, less black women in this world. This all means that a successful black man's dating world contains less faces of color. His choices are based more on timing, access, and opportunity, than on preference. White women have more access to this world and make themselves available.

Tiger Woods' world was 98% white most his golf life, so it would have been more of a shock if he married a sister. So, most black men you see with white women is because of access, opportunity, and availability. And many educated successful sisters today are dating more white men than ever before. Why? There are fewer brothers in their circle, and they have been brainwashed to believe that only a brother with as much education or position is suitable, or black men on their level want white women. That's what systematic racism causes, and why the boards get a lot of hits when these subjects are discussed.

That said, it is also a numbers game, and men have more choices. There will always be more females available than males to go around within any species (human, animal, or insect). God set up that system, so don't hate me. So, if you are a black woman and don't wish to cross over then you do have less choices. And remember, most white men who date sisters are not looking to marry you. Also, the longer you wait the less chances to find that good black man. That's just being real.

Jill is right about one thing, racism in America has affected the way white and black people view IR dating. People say we need to move forward and away from slavery and the thinking it brings, but that history can't be dismissed when racism is alive and well today. The scars of that history can be read on these boards. We spend time blaming each other without looking at the complete picture. Most people prefer, date, and marry their own. Some will try IR dating based on access and/or opportunity. I dated and married a beautiful black woman I prayed to come into my life 20 years ago. If you're patient, prayer does work. I passed up every opportunity to date women of other races, because I wanted to marry a sister. Also, I never dated anyone I would not consider marrying. So, IR dating was not an option. That's just me, but to each his own. It's always going to be about access, opportunity, and the choices we make.

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